Official Luthiers Forum!

Owned and operated by Lance Kragenbrink
It is currently Tue Apr 15, 2025 12:20 pm


All times are UTC - 5 hours


Forum rules


Be nice, no cussin and enjoy!




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:15 pm 
Offline
Koa
Koa

Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:49 pm
Posts: 1060
First name: peter
Last Name: havriluk
City: granby
State: ct
Zip/Postal Code: 06035
Country: usa
Focus: Build
Status: Amateur
Elsewhere in the online universe there's a vast array of opinions and claims about the sonic qualities of various brands of strings, of which there are many.

Does anybody know how many manufacturing sources of strings exist and whether there's much variability in their content? I get a sense that a whole bunch of string sources are packagers of the same wires with different labels and which have their attendant enthusiasts. Sorta' like trying to figure out which feather helps Dumbo fly better.

I hesitate to pose this question on an enthusiast's forum; I fear what I'd get for responses are the same brand addictions being circulated.

Thanks!

_________________
Peter Havriluk


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 7:36 am 
Offline
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
Old Growth Brazilian Rosewood
User avatar

Joined: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:49 am
Posts: 13541
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
First name: Hesh
Last Name: Breakstone
City: Ann Arbor
State: Michigan
Country: United States
Status: Professional
Many manufacturers are not indeed manufacturers and as you suspect Peter and instead repackagers and resellers.

What a string sounds like is subjective and a personal preference thing as well. But I use all these various makers of strings wares since we encourage our clients to bring their own new set to us if they want anything we don't stock not in terms of their BS promises but empirical data, how specifically they intonate on the strobe. I can see and measure differences in various strings.

I can tell you that for example super slinky 9's from Ernie Ball intonate about 2 cents for the high strings differently than say D"addario etc. On maker of strings in our experience have QC issues and we often when encountering a problem that someone brings us if they are using these strings we find the strings can be ****. We even bought a digital microscope to take pics of loose and inconsistent windings on some brands to show the pics to clients when we find what was causing their tuning and intonation issues.

Tone wise the materials such as phosphor bronze will make a tone difference consistently and there is that. But all things being equal from brand to brand I don't find any tone differences and it is not unusual for someone like D'Addario to make strings for other brands.

But back to my data. Yes there are differences that can be seen on turning gear. I recently went from D'Addario 10's on all my electrics to Super Slinky 9's what I played when I was a kid because of arthritis in my hands and big bends starting to be painful after I play.... That did the trick but all of my electrics, about 2 dozen of them had to be set-up again because of slightly different tension of 9's that reduced relief and lowered action a bit too low on some of the guitars.

This is why as someone who sets-up hundreds of guitars annually we ask people to bring their own preferred strings if we do't stock them because it makes a difference in the set-up from both brand to brand as well as gauge.

Some of the intonation differences can be much more than 2 cents and can be heard. When I built guitars, acoustic guitars I intonated them since intonation is fixed for D'Addario the most popular sting on the planet.

FYI on my acoustics I like Martin Retro Monel strings a lot. I've turned dozens of players onto them and they love them too especially the gigging musicians. These strings sound played in when they are brand new and continue to sound the same way for their entire life span.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 2 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Ken Lewis and 39 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
phpBB customization services by 2by2host.com